AGAVE – lowest natural glycemic index sweetner – make sure it is unprocessed raw from the sap

Subject: [PineHill] Who’s behind the attack on Agave? (LONG — detective story)

Greetings, Everyone!!

Before this thread on Agave vanishes to the archives, I’d like to share
some thoughts and findings…

Did you ever wonder who is behind this attack on Agave?

I took part of my Easter Sunday, not to hunt Easter eggs, but to  follow
some trails in search of who was behind the attacks on agave… But ¬†before I
share my discoveries, think about the implications for Young Living
distributors of the Mar. 30th article by Dr. Mercola  Рwhich arrived in  my
mailbox the night of Mar. 29th with a different version than appeared later.

The version I saw that night thoroughly damned agave as worse than high fructose corn syrup. It contained only ¬†ONE SENTENCE which admitted that there were a few companies that made an unprocessed raw agave. ¬†¬†¬†(“It is worth mentioning that some websites mention that a natural raw agave ¬†product does exist in Mexico, made from the actual sap of the agave, but ¬†availability is limited because it is so expensive to produce. By far, the vast ¬†majority of agave syrups offered commercially are not this unprocessed raw ¬†agave from the sap.”)

No ‘good’ companies/products were listed by name. Instead the lengthy article shredded Agave products as worthless, rather, worse than worthless!
Damaging to good health and something to be avoided at all  costs!

Very possibly most of the agave on the market DOES fit the profile Dr. Mercola presented. However, he did a real disservice to those companies, including Young Living, who ARE selling a natural agave product. If he’s about helping people find superior, healthy products, he certainly failed miserably with that article.

What do I mean? Well, what’s going to happen when you try to introduce ¬†a new person to Young Living’s agave and tell them what a great product it ¬†is?
IF they’re believers of God, oops, I mean Dr. Mercola, they’ll tell ¬†you how Dr. Mercola (or Mike Adams last year) said how very, very bad agave is.
Do you think you’ll be able to convince them otherwise? I mean, they READ IT!!

Okay, so Agave is not Young Living’s main product. HOWEVER, see how the ripples extend outward… ¬†Your prospective customer thinks, “Hmmm….so
Young Living sells agave… That’s really bad according to Dr. Mercola and he wouldn’t lie to us, would he? So…I wonder what short cuts/ product cheapening methods Young Living uses on their other products? Hmmm… Guess ¬†I don’t want anything from Young Living.” ¬†Get the idea?

That seemingly unimportant attack on a small product has the power of impacting OUR businesses and hence OUR lives and the lives of the ¬†members of¬† OUR families — not to mention all those who won’t try agave ¬†because of the negative articles about it so will never know the benefits.

This attack reminded me of many other attacks on products over the  years.
I don’t know how many of you are old enough to remember the arrival ¬†of margarine on the scene. I was the one in our family who had the job of mixing the yellow/orange powder into the glob of white margarine to make it look more ¬†like butter. I can remember the disgust many people had with the dairy farmers ¬†who had managed to get the government to require margarine to be sold without ¬†color. How obstructive of progress!!

Then we had the advent of the vegetable oils with more ‘studies’ showing how bad butter and saturated fats were. The coconut oil producers, small farmers ¬†in countries like the Philippines couldn’t compete with the soybean/corn/canola ¬†agri-businesses. ¬†[If you want to know more about the 'good' oils: coconut, ¬†butter, and palm, google Bruce Fife.]

We know how the FDA wouldn’t allow Stevia to be sold as a sweetener ¬†(only as a ‘nutritional supplement’) to ‘protect’ aspartame, etc. (Lest you ¬†think that now that no longer matters, be aware that once the big companies could extract a part of the natural stevia and change it and get a patent on it,
‘it’ — the patented variations which can make $$$$ — have now been approved…They are not REAL Stevia.)

So in the 21st century, Agave has stumbled into this situation where people want natural products which sends shock waves through the world of artificial sweeteners. “We’ll lose profits!!!”

As many have said before:  FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL!!

So back to my original question: “Who is behind this attack on ¬†Agave?”

I don’t know for certain and don’t have the time to go digging any more but would like to share with you some of what I found out Sunday. If you’re interested, CARRY ON!! The information is ‘out there.’ One just has to ¬†dig. I guess CARRY ON could also mean, if you want to know what I learned, ¬†keep reading. ¬†:)

Dr. Mercola listed five references for his article. Much of his ¬†material came from _Morell ¬†SF and Nagel R. “Agave nectar: Worse than we thought,” April 30, 2009. Weston A. ¬†Price Foundation_ (http://www.westonaprice.org/Agave-Nectar-Worse-Than-We-Thought.html) . ¬†Nagel, by the way, is the one who wrote the article ¬†for Mike Adams’ newsletter last year. As far I as I could tell, it was heavily ¬†based on the above mentioned article. (I didn’t reread it now because I drew a ¬†blank when I tried to access it.)

Well, I went to the Morell/Nagel article on the Weston A. Price ¬†Foundation website and looked at the references for it. ¬†There were 40 ¬†references listed, two of which referred to ‘personal communication with Russ ¬†Bianchi’.
That was only two out of 40, BUT there followed a paragraph ¬†thanking Mr. Bianchi for his assistance… ¬†”The authors are grateful ¬†for the information provided by Russ Bianchi, Managing Director and CEO of ADEPT ¬†SOLUTIONS, INC, a Soquel, California, based global product development creation, conversion, and stabilization company. Mr. Bianchi has three decades¬í experience ¬†in many thousands of successful food, beverage, pharmaceutical, cosmetic, confectionery, flavor, and functional, as well as dietary supplement and brand
development.”

I began to see lights flashing as I read the kinds of companies Mr. Bianchi had assisted with product development. So I looked up Russ Bianchi, managing director and president of Adept Solutions, Inc.

I found  the following at: _http://www.russbianchi.com/aboutruss.html (http://www.russbianchi.com/aboutruss.html)

“Adept Solutions, Inc. is a leading global ¬†product development and formulation firm specializing in new product creation ¬†and innovative existing brand, or product conversion, as well a recipe ¬†commercialization and standardization. Adept Solutions, Inc. expertise includes, ¬†but is not limited to, food, beverage, bakery, sweeteners, fruit, frozen, ¬†microwavable, ambient, aseptic, confectionery, chocolate, dairy, cereal, bars, ¬†tableting, capsules, meat, poultry, fish, cosmetic, nutritional and dietary ¬†supplements, pharmaceutical, pet products, expert witness services, sports, ¬†diet, medical, reliable co-”Adept Solutions, Inc. is a leading global ¬†product development and formulation firm specializing in new product creation ¬†and innovative existing brand, or product conversion, as well a recipe ¬†commercialization and standardization. Adept Solutions, Inc. expertise includes, ¬†but is n “Adept Solutions, Inc. is an active member of the Institute of ¬†Food Technologists, and the American Association of Cereal Chemists, the ¬†International Society of Pharmaceutical Engineering, the American Association of ¬†Candy
Technologists, and the American Association of Pharmaceutical Scientists.
Adept Solutions, Inc., specializes, and is the technological leader in product development and conversion of proven significant shelf life extension, water ¬†activity control (Aw), higher yields, proven sports and dietary energy, satiety, ¬†crystal inhibition, efficacious diabetic products, functional bar manufacture, ¬†low calorie sweetening without adverse costs or side effects including heat ¬†products, flavor improvement or masking, fat reduction, high fiber, ¬†microwavability, equilibration, oxidation, anti-”Adept Solutions, Inc. is an active mem

Anyone seeing  red lights yet?      (Part 2 to follow)

Carol Faust


Subject: [PineHill] Agave – Part 2

Greetings,

Here’s the rest of my message…

(Part 2)

I also learned that Russ Bianchi is the formulator for a ¬†nutritional beverage based on the Moringa tree called Zija (which is packaged in ¬†aluminum cans, by the way). ¬†The Moringa tree contains many nutrients. ¬†Although I searched and searched, I could not find a label for Zija. There were descriptions of the nutrients in it but it’s only on the actual label that one ¬†can see what’s REALLY in it and the order of ingredients (which is supposed to ¬†be listed from the most to the least).

Mr. Bianchi described Zija as “a delicious, all-natural beverage ¬†blended from a miracle plant called Moringa, considered by many to be the most nutrient-rich plant ever discovered.”
“Zija is overflowing with cell-ready nutrients, antioxidants, minerals, omega ¬†oils and vital proteins. Zija is the first, and only, company to channel Moringa¬ís dramatic nutritional properties into a refreshing, nourishing beverage ¬†to help you maintain a healthy, active lifestyle. Zija gives you balance and ¬†variety as nature intended.
“Developed by world-renowned nutritional food formulator Russell Bianchi, the ¬†proprietary Zija beverage is 100% natural, Halal and Kosher certified, and ¬†contains over 90 verifiable nutrients in each serving. Our method of capturing ¬†high levels of absorbability is so extraordinary, it¬ís patent pending.”
At one site I visited, I found he had been asked about the ORAC ¬†rating for Zija. He proceeded to ‘talk’ about ‘fraudulent scales of ¬†comparison.’

He claims there is no ORAC value for Zija “because the scale is ¬†not empirically based. Zija products are real science, not fiction.” Regarding ¬†the Glycemic Index or Glycemic Load, Mr. Bianchi said, “…these are false and misleading scales, that are also NOT ¬†empirically based. All three of the above fake comparison scales (or bait and ¬†switch marketing tactics) are designed to confuse, or convince, an ¬†unknowledgeable consumer, or user, of real products, that really work, like ¬†Zija.” His next comments sounded very
drug-oriented to me: that the scale needed ¬†to measure specific everything for ‘specific net measurable results.’ ¬†To ¬†me that reads: ‘made in a laboratory’ with every batch exactly like every other batch rather than natural and God-made.

He continued to state that if one is asked questions about ORAC or glycemic index, “KNOW you are dealing with either someone who does not have an empirical background in the benefits of real nutrition and absorption, or some slick marketer of a product that more than likely does not do what they claim, ¬†or they are (feebly) trying to compare to products that really work.”
Any red lights yet?
Many of you may remember ¬†that there was a rebuttal to the anti-agave article which appeared in Mike ¬†Adams’ newsletter almost a year ago. It was written by the owner of one of the ¬†’ethical Agave companies,’ ¬†Craig Gerbore, owner of Madhava. I found ¬†that he had also written a longer article.

Mr. Gerbore commented that the author, Rami Nagel,  interviewed his company [Madhava] and another which both make a  natural raw agave product BUT did not include one word of those interviews in  his article!! Mr. Gerbore also commented that Mr. Nagel’s article is based  primarily on the view of Russ Bianchi.

Mr. Gerbore said Mr. Nagel states: ¬ďThe ¬†principal constituent of the agave is starch, such as what is found in corn or ¬†rice.¬Ē According to Mr. Gerbore, this statement “which is the foundation of much ¬†of their argument, has no basis in scientific fact, THERE IS NO STARCH IN the ¬†agave…Agave plants have inulin, not starch.”
[I (Carol) cannot vouch for that either way but it should be easy to  check out.]

Mr. Gerbore also found ¬†that Russ Bianchi “lists Ingredient ¬†Broker among his services” and “oligosaccharides are a product he deals ¬†in.” In my search I found other writers who took issue with what Mr. Nagel (and by extension to 2010 Dr. Mercola) had to say about agave. ¬†At ¬†Scott’s Journey,

http://catsandjammers.net/scottsblog/blog2.php/2009/04/26/lcentergdissecting-the-agave-controversy_
(http://catsandjammers.net/scottsblog/blog2.php/2009/04/26/lcentergdissecting-the-agave-controversy) ,

in reference to Mr. Nagel’s 2009 article, Scott said, ¬†”Sounds to me like this guy [Russ Bianchi] is really into PRESERVATIVES and ¬†unnatural foods. Yet he is on a mission to discredit a health(ier) option, agave ¬†nectar, that is now available to people. He even has time to post anti-agave ¬†messages on various message boards! This is our agave expert upon which ¬†Rami¬ís article is based.”

[And by extension, Dr. Mercola, since it seems he used Rami's  article.]

Enough said?

So what’s the moral of this story? ¬†When we read a news ¬†article cutting down some natural product, before re-acting or believing it ¬†– or even starting to doubt Young Living’s product, take a deep breath, a large ¬†pinch of salt, and a glass of water and then follow the money trail. ¬†¬†Who says it’s bad? With whom are they connected in some way? Who benefits ¬†if this natural product bites the dust?

How fortunate we are these days that we CAN do searches from the ¬†comfort of our own homes. This was probably just the tip of the iceberg ¬†that I uncovered Sunday afternoon. Remember, don’t take what I say as true ¬†– do your own research.

I hope you all read Gary Young’s comments this week regarding Young Living’s agave. I’m sure we will be hearing more from him in the near ¬†future.
Stay tuned, and in the meantime, continue to enjoy Young Living’s ¬†Agave. We will.

Best wishes,
Carol Faust

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Here is the initial response by Gary Young:

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I am very well aware of Mercola’s attack on agave.
Now, we know that there are different quality of Agave just like different qualities of oils.
That is why I ordered Sue to do a research project on the Agave at Weber State University in Jan. on rats so we can see the effects on the metabolism and the liver comparing it with, honey and white sugar so we have concrete information.

1. Beware of false claims.

2. Tell your distributors that at this time there is no evidence to support his claims.

3. The agave that they use in Tequila is highly concentrated which means it has been cooked at high temp. in order to get a stronger sugar base. If you cool honey at high temp. you would get the same outcome.

4. The real question should be does the agave metabolize. (Yes it does)

5. Does the agave spike glucose levels  ( NO )

6. Does the agave change liver enzyme function    (NO)

7. Does the agave create allergies (NO)

8. Does the agave cause candida (NO)

9. Does the agave create addictions (NO)

10. Does the agave change hormone function (NO)

11. Does the agave cause brain fatigue (NO)

12. Does agave cause arthritis type pain  (NO)

We have done more clinical studies than any person I know and high fructose corn syrup and white sugar causes changes that are seen in clinical trials.
However I have ordered further studies to be done, so we will have such evidence; and if all that I have seen proves me wrong then you will be the first to know.
It is just too easy to get caught up in other peoples agendas.
For your information if there is something bad, do you think I would give it to Jacob or Josef.
.
I hope this helps,  Gary Young
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Dear Oilers,

There has been some recent controversy about the benefits or lack thereof concerning agave for a sweetener. Here is an article that just came out
today I copied from Newsmax. Mexican researchers say agave is good.

David Stewart

Agave Treats Diabetes and Osteoporosis

Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:38 AM

The agave plant, the key ingredient in Mexico’s famous tequila, could help treat diabetes and osteoporosis, according to Mexican researchers.

Experiments on rats at the CINVESTAV research center suggested that a diet rich in fructans from the plant could both help improve the formation of  bone tissue and stimulate the production of the GLP-1 hormone which promotes insulin release, Dr. Mercedes Lopez, the head of the research team, told journalists.

Drinking tequila would not give the same health benefits, however, since fructans lose their effect during the fermentation process, Lopez added.

Scientists at the research center of the National Polytechnic Institute in the western state of Guanajuato were to carry out a second stage of research on rodents before testing their results on humans.

Here is a great GI article by Organic Lifestyle.

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April 7, 2010 ¬∑ JenniferBhala ¬∑ 16 Comments
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16 Responses

  1. jennifer - April 20, 2010

    Hi I just read Dr. Mercolas Article on Agave and Yikes It scared me to death as I have beed using it for years, Buying ones labeled raw when I could find it. After reading the section where indicated some companies process raw Agave, I sort of felt mistrustful of of those un amed companies and there labels and immediatly googled raw unprocesses agave to see what I could find. and I found your article. You are right now have a doubt in my my wheather any agave is safe. Jennifer von Graevenitz

  2. JenniferBhala - April 22, 2010

    I trust any Young Living product 100% because I have been to many conventions, educational classes, and meeting over the past 8 years with Gary Young, founder of YLEO, and other doctors and aromatherapy experts and I know that Gary would not sell any product that is not beneficial to the body without causing it any harm. So I use the YL brand of agave among many other of its products. I also trust his quality because I have used these oils to heal myself and my family of a number of conditions during this time as well.

  3. JenniferBhala - April 22, 2010

    Also, I have found that agave is the only sweetener I can use where it does not buzz me out.

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  7. Tyler Armstrong - May 31, 2010

    Very interesting read! Honest..

  8. Jessica - July 27, 2010

    Thanks for this, I became curious on how agave could be SO bad. I visited a tequila distillery and saw how the bulb was heated in an oven and then from that not sure exactly how but a sweet sugar is naturally born from the plant, then further distilled to tequila. I too wonder if these scare tactics are from competitors.

  9. JenniferBhala - July 27, 2010

    Thanks for that comment Jessica. That must have been awesome, visiting a tequila factory. If you have interest you could call Young Living 1-800-371-3515 and ask them where the factory is that makes the YL agave and visit it to see if there is a difference.
    We always have to be concerned about the motives behind comments people make and also, who paid for the research and who benefits from the research and is there integrity in the information. Being an eye witness is always most helpful.

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  11. Ryan Green - August 19, 2010

    we have a small stevia garden at home and the dried leaves are very very sweet..:

  12. JenniferBhala - August 19, 2010

    Hi Ryan

    Fresh home grown and live is best.

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  14. Dani - September 4, 2010

    I have no issues with Agave Nectar. I’ve heard a lot of the debate and have dove into fairly deeply. I use the Raw Unprocessed kind from a manufacturer that I won’t ‘plug’ to avoid sounding like a shill.. and yes there is a difference even though many cry otherwise. Everything is ‘technically processed’… if you put an apple in a juicer it is ‘processed’. The key is whether there is harmful adulteration during that ‘process’. And there are different types of Agave and ways in which they are processed depending on the manufacturer. It’s key to know and trust those who make the products you take into your body.

    A few reasons why I use it.. 1- I don’t have to use as much. So comparing if you eat a pound of each… Is a bad way to assess their merits. With Agave I use WAY less to achieve the same sweetness. 2- Fructose is what you find in NATURAL fruits like apples, etc. And finally.. 3- Sugar is processed using Animal products such as BONE CHARCOAL! ICK!

    So to sum it up… Agave allows me to moderate my sugar intake a great deal!

  15. JenniferBhala - September 5, 2010

    Hi Dani

    Thanks for spending time commenting about Agave, this wonderful sweetener. I believe it so wonderful that the manufacturers of artificial and processed sweeteners are trying to stop the word getting out about it’s benefits by bad mouthing it. All one has to do is try it for oneself to know the benefits and if that is not enough, research the companies that produce it and look for motives from the people who discredit it.
    And yes, there certainly are different qualities of agave just as there are different qualities of most anything. You may pay more for the best quality now but think of the future savings of great health and less doctor expenses.

  16. Samuel Johnson - October 6, 2010

    the thing i like about stevia is that it is tooth friendly-.-

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